How does a Phuks user eliminate automatic downvoting of every comment and submission to this site?
In my circumstance downvoting may even affect those who interact with me. Look at my history.
Is there a way to directly contact Admins to address this?
I see them. My sneaky fox senses have had me watching for a few days - https://kek.gg/i/4mHBFz.jpeg
This one is tricky. This is kinda why reddit started vote fuzzing and not showing real vote numbers. They could create lists of malicious users and make the votes count less towards the sorts for everyone else.
This topic has come up a few times while building the sorts and to "fix" it usually puts a human in charge of how phuks displays content for everyone else. If you have any ideas, we're open for input.
Ideas for alternative content display: (1) Rank according to controversy, by adding a point to a post for each upvote-downvote pair. (2) Reverse rank by swapping the effects of upvotes and downvotes.
Personally, I'm more concerned about impacts on user rankings (and privilege given to high-ranking users), than content visibility via sorts. I tend to browse via 'new' and did the same on voat.
yes, both of those I want too. what to call them? (the names have to fit on small buttons) Hot/New/Top..
"Spicy" for controversial
"Cold" .. opposite of hot... maybe Gross or Phukd
What do you mean by automatic? Like bots/scripts?
Most likely I recently ticked off someone whom is unwilling to identify himself, the problem, or simply move on (to another outrage).
For the past few weeks everything I've posted has been met with an immediate downvote.
oh okay, someone who has nothing better to do.
Oh cool you run a MST3K sub, I'm subbing now.
It does not seem to be automatic. We don't really have any policy about being consistently downvoted by a user, unless some kind of vote manipulation (alt account voting, as an example) is going on.
By automatic I meant regardless of content, not automation.
E: I agree with that policy and it most likely applies in this circumstance, since the d/v's are singular. You cleared it up for me, thank you.
E2: I didn't see your reply and hope I answered your q
The admins could automatically check for users who are downvoted consistently and users who appear to be obviously targeting certain people consistently. I'm not sure what they do when a problem user is detected though... shame them with a badge, ban them, send them a polite message telling them to cut it out? All measures can be easily circumvented by problem users.
I try to counteract some of your undeserved downvotes and I'm sure others do too. That's probably the best that can be done for now.
It's not just content visibility: phuks system for ranking users is just based on raw popularity. If you attract a group of problem users or alts it's not hard to game it. The admins say ranking doesn't matter My impression is that the admins say ranking does matter much, but it already confers various benefits, and attracts respect through apparent seniority. I can only see ranking mattering more in future.
we talked about making a new sort that ranks the votes based on the user levels. It's a super intensive query and needs a bunch of caching to store all the active users and what their levels are every few mins/hours.
yeah, oops, i meant sort the posts by number of votes over time, but the votes have different values depending on who they came from or ignore votes from people with a high dv/uv ratio.
say like five upvotes from five level one users on a post, that post would be equal to another post with one upvote from a level ten user.
and attracts respect through apparent seniority.
I think I can destroy that misconception.
After the first couple levels it is just a meaningless 'popularity contest'.
You could make an decent argument that downvotes are censorship on a site as large as reddit, and maybe on voat, but phuks is small enough to where everyone sees everything.
You should also consider that sites like reddit, voat, and phuks are actually designed with limited democratic censorship in mind. If the majority vote that some content is the least acceptable, it appears last.
And finally, I really don't think its a bot. I think you probably pissed someone off, and downvoting you makes them feel better. Its up to you if you let their internet tantrum bother you or not.
It's more for new submissions rather than comments. I heard that when a submission is immediately downvoted it's treated differently than the single point everyone is given.
I'm not concerned about points but expect my voice to be heard equally.
Edit: Absolutely it's one person (not a bot) who allowed himself to be ticked off enough he's unable to move forward.
I heard that when a submission is immediately downvoted it's treated differently
There is definitely a bandwagon effect. If it makes you feel any better, posts that get immediately downvoted actually attract my attention more than one that doesn't get voted on at all. I'm generally interested to figure out what someone dislikes about any given post or comment.
Actually, showing more information on our user pages would help this a little:
Things were altered a while back so that we can no longer see how many upvotes and downvotes we receive and give. If you displayed this information in full it would more clearly identify when a user has a lower score due to a lot of downvotes being given, and when a user is doing way more downvoting than our modest spam can justify.
I like the transparency of up/down votes you mentioned, but that could get catty if too specific. Then again, if you participate in cattiness then maybe you deserve the back and forth's result, as long as it's limited specifically to those participating.
You're just getting some love from the downvote fairy.
Just ignore them. I get a feeling of Schadenfreude when I see it.
There's been a couple sensitive and fragile types around recently, but they'll get over their hurt if you just ignore them.
In the end, the votes don't matter anyway.
Cheap-skate admins won't exchange them for another currency.
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